Legal editor for Fox News shared best advice to give and receive — and the 3 presidents she'd have dinner with if she could
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This week, we're excited to shine the spotlight on Kerri Kupec Urbahn, legal editor for Fox News.
Prior to her work in media, she served as director of public affairs at the Department of Justice under Attorney General William P. Barr. She also served as communications director for Alliance Defending Freedom, and clerked for Court of Appeals of Virginia Judge William G. Petty.
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In a new "Short questions with Dana Perino," legal editor Kerri Kupec Urbahn reveals her advice for those who are thinking of entering the legal profession — and her recent appreciation for two particular amendments to the U.S. Constitution. (Fox News)
Q: What is the best advice you've ever been given? And what is your favorite piece of advice to give?
KKU: Make stars of others — and make stars of others.
It's counterintuitive but the best way to operate, whether professionally or personally.
Q: What are some key skills or qualities you believe are essential for success in the legal profession?
KKU: Good gut instinct, attention to detail, integrity.
Q: What advice would you give to someone considering law school or entering the legal profession?
KKU: You should want to practice law. Law school and the bar exam are a huge commitment.
It's time-consuming, challenging and expensive — and what I'd imagine trade school is like.
I often tell people NOT to follow my path. That is, I loved the various philosophies behind law and talking about the law, but wasn't sure I wanted to practice.
Thankfully, my career path worked out and I've had a number of dream jobs, but it's not the norm.
"Learning how to think like a judge, particularly an appellate one, has helped me tremendously in my career."
The other advice I would give is to clerk for a judge.
Learning how to think like a judge, particularly an appellate one, has helped me tremendously in my career, from leading efforts in the court of public opinion at Alliance Defending Freedom on a number of high-profile, sensitive U.S. Supreme Court cases to my current spot as legal editor for Fox News.
Also, working for a smart judge will sharpen your ability exponentially to analyze, spar and keep up — which proved to be especially critical when I worked for former Attorney General Bill Barr.
Even though the entire time I was clerking I felt like a square peg in a round hole, I also had a sense the skills I was developing would be crucial to what I did in the future.
That proved to be true.
Q: What about advice you’d give to someone who is feeling unsure about their career path in law?
KKU: I'd tell them to get some practical experience under their belt first — clerking, working in a prosecutor's or public defender's office. Then re-assess.
At that point, a person typically has a good idea of what they don't want to do, which makes it easier in deciding what to do.
Q: What’s your favorite amendment to the U.S. Constitution and why?
KKU: For most of my life, I would have said the First Amendment for the obvious reasons — freedom of speech, religion, etc. is a defining characteristic of America and facilitates human flourishing.
"You can't have real justice without due process."
Lately, I've developed a newfound appreciation for the 5th and 6th Amendments.
You can't have real justice without due process and it's what distinguishes a free nation from a banana republic.
Q: Moving away from law for a moment: If you were to organize a movie marathon featuring your all-time favorite films, what three movies would top your list? Bonus: What snacks would you serve?
KKU: If I take the time to watch a movie, it needs to be an escape, which for me equals feel-good (If it's sad or violent, I'm out!).
Thus, my three would be: "Sabrina" (the original one, with Audrey Hepburn), "Legally Blonde" and "The Holiday."
Snacks: Onion dip (sour cream mixed with Lipton Onion soup mix), with kettle potato chips and either Coke or wine.
Q: What is the last book you read?
KKU: Over the last couple of years, I've gotten back into reading just for the sake of it being fun, and am currently in the middle of "The Paris Novel" by Ruth Reichl.
Q: If you could invite any three U.S. presidents to a dinner party, who would they be?
KKU: George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Dwight Eisenhower.
Q: Lastly, fill in the blank: I wish someone had told me …
KKU: … That healthy confidence does not equal arrogance.
I hate arrogance and have often over-compensated by underselling myself, overly deferring and not properly owning my seat at the table.
But usually, if I ask myself, "How would a man act in this situation?" — then I can snap out of it. ;)
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