Cracks Appear In The MAGA-Tech Alliance
Elon Musk is arguably more responsible for Donald Trump's election victory than any single individual other than Trump or his opponent. By buying Twitter (now, X), he provided a platform for Trump and others to counter the mainstream media, and Elon of course endorsed Trump, donated millions to support his campaign, and personally stumped for him in Pennsylvania.
As much as Trump supporters appreciated Elon and other Silicon Valley types like David Sacks helping getting Trump elected, many feared that the price would be more foreign workers for the tech industry. Those fears were validated on Christmas as Elon and others called for just that.
No, we need more like double that number yesterday!
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 25, 2024
The number of people who are super talented engineers AND super motivated in the USA is far too low.
Think of this like a pro sports team: if you want your TEAM to win the championship, you need to recruit top talent wherever…
The conflict was further fueled by the revelation that recent Trump appointee Sriram Krishnan wants to lift country caps on green cards...
Point of clarification: Sriram didn’t say he wants to remove all caps on green cards. He said he wants to remove *country* caps on green cards. Right now, every country in the world gets allocated the same number of green cards, no matter how many qualified applicants it has. So…
— David Sacks (@DavidSacks) December 24, 2024
How Many Indian Immigrants Does America Need?
As a number of X users noted, in practice, lifting country caps would further increase Indian immigration at the expense of other countries.
Elon applauded as tech cram school founder Austin Allred, who had previously been fined for deceiving Americans desperate for Silicon Valley jobs...
Austen Allred, CEO of Lambda School, was just personally fined $100,000 for “Deceiving Students and Hiding Loan Costs,” and ordered to stop collecting from graduates. I think this saga is coming to a close.https://t.co/CFzhzpM9yH
— Ben Sandofsky (@sandofsky) April 17, 2024
...Mocked Trump supporters, suggesting they were against welcoming foreign geniuses like Wernher von Braun.
💯😂
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 26, 2024
But others pointed out that India hasn't produced many von Brauns--in fact, it has produced fewer hard science Nobel laureates than tiny Croatia, despite having 375x as many people.
Nobel Prize Winners in the Hard Sciences
— FbF (@FistedFoucault) December 26, 2024
India (population 1.5 Billion) = 1
Croatia (population 4 million) =2
Do you want me to include athletics next? (you don't want that) https://t.co/Hf07IFWSFg
And we are importing 281x more H-1B tech workers from India than we are from Wernher von Braun's home country, Germany:
H1B Visas for Indians in 2022: 320,791
— Bones (@FrailSkeleton) December 26, 2024
H1B Visas for Germans in 2022: 1,138 pic.twitter.com/nPE2cFJpCS
Indians Chime In, Insult Americans
A number of Indians, both in India and the U.S. chimed in to insult American commenters, with one even suggesting Americans were "inbred"...
Shiv, India has a consanguineous marriage rate of 9.9%, versus 0.1% to 0.2% in the U.S.
— David Pinsen (@dpinsen) December 25, 2024
That makes Indians 50-100x more inbred than Americans.
This, despite India's sky-high rates of cousin marriage.
— 5chstereo (@5chstereoAI) December 26, 2024
Other Indians and Indian-Americans argued that Americans were turning against "meritocracy" because they couldn't compete with Indians--this despite Indians (and Indian women in particular) benefiting from pro-DEI policies in the U.S.
@dpinsen ♬ Frolic (Theme from "Curb Your Enthusiasm" TV Show) - Luciano Michelini
Vivek Drives Into The Peter Principle On X
Vivek Ramaswamy, President Trump's co-head, along with Elon Musk, of the Department Of Government Efficiency (DOGE), wrote that American culture was the problem.
Vivek Ramaswamy says the reason US companies hire foreign born talent is because of the degeneracy of American culture, which prizes jocks over nerds, and Stefan over Urkel in Saved By The Bell https://t.co/zVz4g2pgSJ pic.twitter.com/iJMeKfV1Dl
— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) December 26, 2024
Vivek seems to have forgotten that he was appointed by an icon of American culture...
Amazing to see Vivek drive head first into the Peter Principle. https://t.co/eIswT3xUu4 pic.twitter.com/irQp2H8nHJ
— David Pinsen (@dpinsen) December 26, 2024
... And the folly of comparing American culture invidiously to Indian culture.
Vivek weighs in: American culture is the problem, which is why we need to import the brilliantly successful culture of India—beyond ridiculous. https://t.co/F4jpzb3L6J
— Patrick Casey (@restoreorderusa) December 26, 2024
Even Vivek's former Republican primary rival Nikki Haley dunked on him for that post.
There is nothing wrong with American workers or American culture. All you have to do is look at the border and see how many want what we have. We should be investing and prioritizing in Americans, not foreign workers. https://t.co/fIGr45C3LD
— Nikki Haley (@NikkiHaley) December 26, 2024
Are Indian Engineers Really Smarter Than American Ones?
Why don't we test that and find out?
Elon, why not create an objective test for excellent engineering talent, and let Americans take it at facilities that offer GMATs and other standardized tests.
— David Pinsen (@dpinsen) December 26, 2024
And then have American consulates offer it to prospective immigrant engineers, and see who scores better.
A Common Sense Approach
Most Americans would probably be fine with us taking in world-beating geniuses from India and every other country, but Elon Musk, David Sacks, Vivek Ramasamy and others should be sensitive to legitimate concerns and objections:
- We already have a visa category for world-beating geniuses, the O-1. It has no annual numerical or country caps. Americans are tired of the bait-and-switch, where we are told we should welcome geniuses but the tech industry is actually advocating importing more average workers to lower wages.
- An objective test given in environments free of the rampant cheating that plagues India (such as the American consulates mentioned above) would go a long way to assuage concerns about credential fraud and ethnocentric hiring of immigrant tech workers.
Sounds like Indians would too, if they couldn’t cheat. https://t.co/1pEdmBLHJ3
— David Pinsen (@dpinsen) December 26, 2024 - Better to build goodwill first by deporting millions of illegal aliens and raising wages for American workers before expanding legal immigration.
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Thursday Evening Update: Elon Walks It Back
Elon "clarified" that he was only talking about top 0.01% engineers (which presumably would already qualify for the O-1 visa). One popular account wasn't buying the walk back though.
I am sick of the bait and switch on this as soon as you people overplay their hands on this issue.
— Mystery Grove Movie List Co. (@MysteryGrove) December 26, 2024
No one is fooled by this handwave retraction stuff. We know what you actually mean. https://t.co/ziQ1vciy7X
And Drukpa Kunley offered a suggestion for those concerned about mass Indian immigration.
If you are concerned about the long-term social and cultural consequences of importing Indian clan structures into more individualist Anglo societies consider importing some traditional Indian adversaries as a counterbalance
— ɖʀʊӄքǟ ӄʊռʟɛʏ 🇧🇹🇹🇩 (@kunley_drukpa) December 26, 2024
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